Interview with Anna Liu at UNSW

On June 22nd I spoke with Anna Liu, Associate Professor at UNSW. Anna's career in IT spans 15 years.

When asked how she first became interested in IT Anna says that it was in the third grade when she asked to go to a Computer Summer Camp. She also sites an earlier episode, when her father identified her interest in mathematics on a first-grade enrolment form. Did she really stand out as a mathematician so early on or did she respond to proactively live up to her father's expectations? She doesn't know for certain, but it seems that she certainly had her parents’ encouragement from an early age.

“But what,” I asked, “about the coolness factor? Were you not worried about what your peers would think?”
Anna laughs "Well I think I was already classed as one of the geeks!"

We chuckle; neither of us were trend setters at school. But does Anna still see the coolness factor as an issue for female high school students with the potential to enter IT studies and careers? Is there still a perception that IT is uncool and does that prevent women from pursuing studies?

"I think that perception has changed a lot" she says, "IT is the cool thing right now, and I can see women getting into it, particularly the social networking aspect."

We decide that coolness is not so much the issue at the moment, but Anna raises another point:

"We don't see enough female participation in the IT industry because we are failing to attract the hardworking female with good HSCs..."

"Generally speaking, girls who get good marks and who enjoy science and maths go straight into medicine. Those who enjoy the communications and English language aspects go straight into law. I don't know if it's a matter of dollars or that we haven't publicised and marketed top IT executives."

It seems a valid point; most of us know lady doctors and lawyers, and I dare say could name a few fictionalised TV characters in those professions too. But there are fewer recognisable people, in real life or TV who demonstrate the success and enjoyment that women can achieve in technical roles.

So how can we encourage women in technical roles to come forward and share their experiences?

I will be posting more from my conversation with Anna, so watch this space.